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|Hill ([http://www.lds.org/scriptures/bofm/ether/15.11?lang=eng#10 Ether 15:11]) = [[CUMORAH|C<small>UMORAH</small>]]
|[[JAREDITES|J<small>AREDITE</small>]]/[[NEPHITE(S)|N<small>EPHITE</small>]] hill ([http://www.lds.org/scriptures/bofm/ether/15.11?lang=eng#10 Ether 15:11])
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'''Etymology'''
'''Etymology'''


Despite the fact that ''ramah'' appears only in an [[ISAIAH|I<small>SAIAH</small>]] passage (2 Nephi 20:19-Wrong) (''ramath'' appears in [http://scriptures.lds.org/en/2_ne/20/29#29 2 Nephi 20:29]) and the Book of Ether, in may be [[MORMON|M<small>ORMON</small>]]’s
'''RAMAH''' is given in [http://www.lds.org/scriptures/bofm/ether/15.11?lang=eng#10 Ether 15:11] as the name of the hill where [[CORIANTUMR|C<small>ORIANTUMR</small>]] encamped before his final battle as well as the name of the place where [[MORMON|M<small>ORMON</small>]] hid the sacred records. Given the close association of the location with both events, the name R<small>AMAH</small> may well be of [[NEPHITE(S)|N<small>EPHITE</small>]], rather than [[JAREDITES|J<small>AREDITE</small>]], origin, and may be derived from the Hebrew ''rāmāh'', "elevation, height;" cf. ''HALOT''. R<small>AMAH</small> was also called [[CUMORAH|C<small>UMORAH</small>]] by the [[NEPHITE(S)|N<small>EPHITES</small>]] ([http://www.lds.org/scriptures/bofm/morm/6.6?lang=eng#5Mormon 6:6]; cf. [http://www.lds.org/scriptures/bofm/ether/15.11?lang=eng#10 Ether 15:11]).
(i.e., Lehite) rendering of the [[JAREDITES|J<small>AREDITE</small>]] name of the hill otherwise known in the Book of Mormon as [[CUMORAH|C<small>UMORAH</small>]]. The name is also biblical, meaning “height, hill” (in KJV
'''RAMAH''', from Hebrew ''rmh'', “high, raised up”) (JAT; Reynolds, Dictionary of the Book of Mormon, p. 241, derives the name from the Hebrew construct form for “hill,”
''ramat'').
 
Dear Royal:
 
You are right; I have not included “Ramath” in my onomasticon. I have added it.
 
The short answer to your question is that it looks like a construct form. As you know there are two problems with this: 1) It never occurs in construct form in the
Tanakh. 2) In the Book of Mormon the context does not call for a construct form.
 
It certainly was either ה or ת, depending on whether there was a vowel in front of it. It would seem that if there was a vowel, it was ה.  If there were no vowel, it was ת.
If the noun with final ה became a construct, the ה became a ת. In classical Arabic the same letter is used in both cases, but the letter is pronounced as “h” or “t”
depending on the context.
 
The fact that the ה becomes a ת in construct would lead some people to believe that the original form for the “feminine marker” was a “(a)t.” (See Moscati, ¶ 12.32–33.
 
Do then the Brass Plates contain an older form of the place name, a form that has preserved the earlier grammatical marker? It is possible. However, I know of no variants
that support this conjecture. The LXX just has the vowel “a.” IQIsa is not clear (ה and ת are quite similar in that script), but the best reading still seems to be ה.  
 
Nevertheless, it is interesting that the best possibility is that the Brass Plates preserve an older form. How could Joseph have known that?
 
Yours,
 
Paul


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Revision as of 11:53, 19 September 2012

Lehite GN/Jaredite GN 1. JAREDITE/NEPHITE hill (Ether 15:11)

Etymology

RAMAH is given in Ether 15:11 as the name of the hill where CORIANTUMR encamped before his final battle as well as the name of the place where MORMON hid the sacred records. Given the close association of the location with both events, the name RAMAH may well be of NEPHITE, rather than JAREDITE, origin, and may be derived from the Hebrew rāmāh, "elevation, height;" cf. HALOT. RAMAH was also called CUMORAH by the NEPHITES (6:6; cf. Ether 15:11).

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